[Python-talk] October meeting topics
tom at bigford.net
Fri Sep 23 11:08:40 EDT 2005
Kent Johnson wrote:
> Tom Bigford wrote:
>> I have to admit though, I am also having problems getting excited
>> about python. The problem is, nothing has pushed me over the edge
>> from mildly curious to fanatic, as it has (evidently) several in this
>> group. I can certainly relate to the "...oh no, another language to
>> learn ..." school of thought. OTOH i am a language junky - Java
>> being my 6th language to use professionaly - and am currently looking
>> for the Next Big Thing to come along in the language world.
>> What is needed is someone who is passionate enough about the language
>> to compare it to what exists. I would say that Java is the current
>> state of the art in main stream programming (if not the most widely
>> used, and i am discounting single archetecture backword steps like
>> C#). I would love to hear someone explain to me, in a technical
>> way, why python is the one.
> Some specific comparisons are in this essay: Why I love Python:
> Compared to coding in Java, coding in Python is faster, gets the job
> done with *a lot* less code and is way more fun! Python is easy,
> powerful and fun - pick three :-)
> If you don't believe me, would you believe Eric Raymond?
> or maybe Bruce Eckel?
> http://184.108.40.206/pub/eckel/LovePython.zip (powerpoint presentation)
> More subjectively...
> More than once when writing pseudocode to define an algorithm I have
> realized that it would be shorter, faster and more precise to write
> working Python code than to write the pseudocode.
> I once had a slightly complex algorithm to code. I prototyped it in
> Python in a few hours. I needed a Java implementation so I ported the
> Python code. It literally took as long to port the tested, working
> Python code to Java as it took to write the Python code in the first
> Porting the other way, from Java to Python, the major activity is
> deleting text. After you get used to Python, Java looks very verbose
> and noisy.
> Maybe the problem with 'selling' Python is that from the outside, it's
> hard to believe that yes, it really is that good!
Kent - Thanks for your enthusiasm - if anything shakes me to take a hard
look that will be it!
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